Kamis, 01 April 2010

The war with Niqab and Burqa







First it was in some places in France, and now probably Belgium.

But I wonder why didn't the South American countries go after the Niqab ? how about the non-Muslim African and Asian countries? . Though it is attacked in some Arabic countries.

Why is it the industrial west. And why didn't America go after it, too ?


P.S: Does the size of the font bothers you ? or is it ok ?

16 komentar:

  1. That's a fascinating survey!

    I'm uncomfortable with the idea of the veil (in the broadest sense) being used to shroud the whole person. But I'm equally uncomfortable with the idea of (male) politicians legislating as to who should be 'freed' in this way.

    I think France and Belgian and similar European countries have a tradition of legislating freedoms in this way. In the US, constitutional rights would actually mitigate against this, I suspect.

    BalasHapus
  2. dad, that's the whole point. even if we are not comfortable with it, it doesn not mean we should free people of it, because of us.

    BalasHapus
  3. There are certain conditions in the U.S. where covering the face is not acceptable, such when one is having a picture taken for a driver's license. There was case in Florida, maybe a year or so ago, where the court decided that irrespective of one's religious beliefs, the covering of the face was illegal when it came to the issue of a photo ID, such as a drivers license.

    I think that was the correct decision. I don't agree with what France and Belgium would be doing, banning the niqab, as it starts a slippery slope. While I am an atheist, I do believe in the freedom of religious expression.

    BalasHapus
  4. Everything is double standard in Western Countries and some Muslim counties. If the government doesn't feel comfy with it, there's a big chance it will be looked down upon.

    I view it as "not obligatory" it should be a choice. I have so much to say about this and will insha'a'Allah come back when I have time. Great post!

    P.S. Your font is fine!

    BalasHapus
  5. I enjoyed this post. I found it interesting to read the argument that the face is most beautiful and should, therefore, be for sure covered. Um, what's wrong with something being beautiful? I've seen handsome men, beautiful women, children and even animals. Isn't this a wonderful attribute of our Creator that He created beauty? And so what? women are beautiful therefore they of all creatures should hide themselves?

    I'm all for modesty. I believe many in the West show too much, however, I think the character of a person is shown often in her face and eyes. I enjoy seeing people smile and seeing their eyes twinkle at a joke or glitter with rage when angered.

    And I saw from the picture that natural beauty is best therefore no makeup and no tweezing the eyebrows? That's interesting because I see scores of Muslim women pictured with beautifully made up eyes and faces.

    Furthermore if men lowered their gazes, why would women have to cover their faces? I guess it's because all men aren't Muslims and the nonMuslim men might gaze upon a woman's face, right? Then why are women in Muslim countries complaining MORE than in Western countries about men harassing them? It seems it should be the opposite since Western women show more skin and more nonMuslims exist in those countries. You'd think the Muslim countries with their covered women and lower-their-gazes men would have the MOST respect for women and there be nary a catcall or harassment unless it was one of those nonMuslim residents doing it.

    And I really hope the men who make such rules don't go around gazing at all of the beauty of the nonMuslim women whether in person while riding the bus with them, shopping near them or watching them on TV or in movies.

    Thanks for opening up discussion on this topic. It's an interesting one for sure!

    BalasHapus
  6. Mr. Nighttime,
    that what should happen in cases of having an id or a driver license, because it makes no sense taking an identifying picture while covering the face.
    living in any place where the rules are different than what your religion might say, someone need to follow this rule and that. But to take the whole rights to follow someone's religion, is absurd.

    BalasHapus
  7. Texan, that's why i keep saying that there are no Muslim countries despite what some countries like to call themselves.

    Thank you dear and waiting for your come back with more :)

    BalasHapus
  8. Susanne,
    in almost every aspect of Islam , there are different arguments. Back then, it was a very active community with so much tolerance, which is not the case nowadays unfortunately.

    Those who believe that the face must be covered, they based their arguments on the idea that the face is the most beautiful part and it's
    the source of temptation which might lead to wrong path.
    I believe that temptation can be through different ways and not only the face. But again that's their arguments.

    Tweezing the eyebrow? that's another topics.Do you know that A LOT believe that this is also forbidden in Islam.

    But even men are asked to lower their gazes and not to look which is leading to the second opinion,-you can not gaze unless someone is showing their face- so if they are asked to lower their gazes , does not that mean that women are not asked to cover their faces !!!

    As for harassing , it's mostly because of the culture of not mixing or mingling between men and women and so on. And sadly because it's the lack of basic knowledge of respect for women.
    Lots of people believe that if you are not covered or that you show your face or hair or parts of your body then you are asking for the attention of everyone therefore anyone can say or sometimes even do something to you and you can not complain. And there are no exact law against harassing. Sometimes even the victim of a rape is compared and put in the same level of the rapist.
    It's a sad thing and nothing Islamic about it, btw.

    You are welcome dear and as always i appreciate your comments :)

    BalasHapus
  9. There is one well-known Muslim woman writer I like, her name is Mona (can't remember her last name) ... she argues vehemently against the niqab. She used to wear hijab herself ... and her sister still does as well as her mom.

    I think that if a woman wants to wear it, she should. But I don't believe in any case anyone should be forcing her to wear certain things. Of course, there is social pressure, so no one is ever free to wear whatever they want without any consequences. And in many cases there is considerable family pressure to dress a certain way.
    And that goes for any society ... not just Muslim ones.
    I can see the argument that a face is beautiful, so it should be covered. But, in my thinking why should a woman have to cover herself totally and be uncomfortable, not able to enjoy any bit of sun or wind.
    I think a solution would be for men to wear very dark glasses so they can't see any women clearly, hahaha. :D

    BalasHapus
  10. Aynur,
    That's Mona althawi, i guess.

    And i agree with you, if a certain woman wants to wear it, then she can go ahead with and there should not be any law against that except for taking pictures for the id or driver license and such things.
    I still believe that the way we dress is mostly cultral than religous. Culture and tradions do interfer a lot with such things. And if one can be free from that and still wants to wear it, then they should be grant that.

    lol@the dark glasses.they will have a fatwa against it then, lol

    BalasHapus
  11. there are only practicing, partially-practicing or non-practicing muslim to me as opposed to the label extreme, moderate or liberal some people like to use...

    it is true there are different rulings with regards to how muslim, men and women, should dress but the basic rules don't differ...all should know which ruling they follow, that's most important...

    i have always wanted to see more girls and women who wear niqab and hijab out of personal choice come forward and tell their stories...

    as much as i am against women being oppressed by whatever reason i am also against women being represented wrongly (like they wear niqab and hijab out of oppression whereas in reality they do it out of personal choice)...

    ...and yes i have met few ladies who told me they wore hijab out of personal choice...

    ....and no i don't wear niqab or hijab...but i see nothing wrong with those who do when they do it out of personal choice...

    BalasHapus
  12. essalam alaikum wa rahamtullahi wa barakatuh,

    you have a nice blog here sister, masha'allah.

    i live in algeria, but am american. recently the algerian government has began to implement a law that will forbid hijab or niqab in passport photos, local id photos or school id photos. this is a "muslim country" and they won't allow the sisters to cover.... how sad..

    BalasHapus
  13. Suraya,
    well said . i can not add anything to your words. it's describing it all in a direct and honest words.

    Thank you :)

    BalasHapus
  14. Jennifer,
    w'3alikum alsalam .

    Thanks for your lovely words dear :)

    i can understand a western countries doing that but as you said a "Muslim and Arabic country " doing it, is not acceptable . so the law in Algeria is it already a law or are they still arguing about it ?

    BalasHapus